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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Vic Vegas on Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:49 pm

No, he does not run gladiators any more. For all intents and purposes, let's just assume that we are working with what we've got, and there's no sense in thinking about anything changing.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Lelu Dallas on Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:51 pm

Fair enough, Though I have seen some really cool suggestions on this forum. Just sayin.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Vic Vegas on Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:01 pm

I started some threads to catalog ideas with the thought that it would be handy to have them all in one space. I am, at heart, an optimistic person. However, when juggling a bunch of newb gladiators and dipping your toe in the pool (in your case) it is best to be a pragmatist, and just work with the current system, so you are not hampered by thoughts of potential future changes.
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Post  Lelu Dallas on Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:11 pm

For sure. But having read all this forum intensively the last few weeks, I have seen the suggestions made, so it is something I bring up.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Vic Vegas on Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:04 pm

I should reword my previous statement from "potential future changes" to "imagined future changes".
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  firebird on Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:14 pm

Back on topic: swordbreaker
I found the swordbreaker works well with calculated attack or decoy.  I shattered my first weapon with a 6 strength and only one train on my second round with La Fenice.  His damage didn't pick up until I got him to a 10 strength.  Since mastering his weapon, he has shattered every blade from a stiletto to a great sword.  He even shattered a scythe and another swordbreaker.

Training wise, Speed is important, so initiative.  Decoy requires Feint.  And disarm and parry make shattering a little easier.  Above though, mastering it is required.  I didn't shatter my first great sword until I mastered it.  

It is a 10+ strength weapon in my opinion.  Anything less is just disappointing.

La Fenice started out as a first team warrior:  4-19-19-12-9-8
Now he's a respectable one at 12-25-25-20-13-8
Is mastered (9) in Swordbreaker
Has excellent skill (6) in Dodge
Has very good skill (5) in Parry
Has excellent skill (6) in Lunge
Has excellent skill (6) in Disarm
Has incredible skill (8) in Initiative
Has excellent skill (6) in Feint
Has some skill (2) in Brawl
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Lelu Dallas on Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:27 pm

May I ask the race/record of that guy?

Also do you use Swordbreaker in each hand?

I was disuaded from using swordbreaker based on the premise that very few upper echelon warriors in this pit use swords.
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Post  Vic Vegas on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:27 pm

The sword breaker does less damage than the short sword and is not nearly as fast. On those rare opportunities that you find yourself against someone with a blade that can be shattered, they might skewer you to pieces before you have the joy of wrecking their weapon.
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Post  firebird on Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:35 am

La Fenice is a half-elf with a record of 45-38-2. He uses a sword breaker in each hand with one as back-up. He needs that many. one fight saw one shatter from a parry, then another was disarmed. That fight saw almost every weapon from the two combatants disarmed or shattered. It also showed that a swordbreaker can be shattered by a swordbreaker... my opponent picked up my disarmed blade which La Fenice promptly shattered.

Vic is right, it does less damage than a short sword, yet it for me is truly entertaining to see an opponent armed with three stilettos try to use a great sword for everything he walked in was shattered.
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Post  Cam_ on Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:07 am

firebird wrote:La Fenice is a half-elf with a record of 45-38-2.  He uses a sword breaker in each hand with one as back-up.  He needs that many.  one fight saw one shatter from a parry, then another was disarmed.  That fight saw almost every weapon from the two combatants disarmed or shattered.  It also showed that a swordbreaker can be shattered by a swordbreaker... my opponent picked up my disarmed blade which La Fenice promptly shattered.

Vic is right, it does less damage than a short sword, yet it for me is truly entertaining to see an opponent armed with three stilettos try to use a great sword for everything he walked in was shattered.

Very Happy sounds like a fun fight to read, I always thought they were a bit slow and cumbersome so I have never really used them. I would have to get trained up in the weapon first then might give one of my fast guys a go with one. well done with the winning record with them.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  firebird on Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:39 pm

The main disadvantage of them is that they truly don'y shine unless the opponent is using a bladed weapon. The direct result of it is that I am always on the hunt to find a blade user.
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Post  Cam_ on Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:59 pm

yeah,and with all the pointy weapons getting used out there you would have to find and challenge bladed warriors.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Vic Vegas on Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:02 pm

And just be careful when challenging around, or you might piss off an experienced manager and get pounded.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  firebird on Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:22 pm

I haven't a clue what you are talking about, Vic.  It is not like I killed Mad Havoc at all and then survived a fight with Draz the flesh miner...oh wait, I did....with relish. Very Happy

Modofo, just playing with you.

But really, how do you expect to improve in this game if you play on the sidelines the entire time? I welcome the challenge and expect it. This is not to boast of my great ability. I claim no great skill, but i want to learn better ways to play this game so I challenge up usually to see what makes a better warrior.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  Vic Vegas on Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:59 pm

As I have several gladiators constantly challenging boar spear dwarves, I'm not looking to get into a challenge war, as then it would free up those dwarves to wreak havoc in the pit.
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Re: Swordbreakers?

Post  firebird on Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:37 am

Funny that, I once ran a team of all dwarves with boar spears.  They were useless so I discontinued them.  Have fun on your BS dwarves hunt.  I will challenge up only occasionally on you so as to not too distract your hunting.
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