Karma Contest

Cam_ wrote:Dux, What about a point for a listed BS Dwarf that has no kills? It would stay true to the Karma theme as they are def in the negative Karma zone and we might get rid of a few more!

I agree with you on that, but I have a bat file setup that scans things for me and shows me just the info I need to see to run Karma. It won't catch 0 kill warriors. I'd have to eye-ball it manually - really don't want the headache of micromanaging the results too much. Call me lazy.

Has Dark Destiny been listed on the other thread Cam???

sliv wrote:Has Dark Destiny been listed on the other thread Cam???

What? Im not getting this matey,

Dux Mortalitas wrote:

Cam_ wrote:Dux, What about a point for a listed BS Dwarf that has no kills? It would stay true to the Karma theme as they are def in the negative Karma zone and we might get rid of a few more!

I agree with you on that, but I have a bat file setup that scans things for me and shows me just the info I need to see to run Karma. It won't catch 0 kill warriors. I'd have to eye-ball it manually - really don't want the headache of micromanaging the results too much. Call me lazy.

Totally understand Dux, its a lot of work crunching tourney data.

Cam_ wrote:

sliv wrote:Has Dark Destiny been listed on the other thread Cam???

What? Im not getting this matey,

I think he was confusing Dux's post for one of your own. Dux's example of what info to give for a BS dwarf applied to one who is no longer living. I'm assuming your new dwarf named DAMNED is not wielding a boar spear.

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Oops! Ment Damned not Dark Destiny! Also forgot he was dead! Wrong on both fronts

sliv wrote:Oops! Ment Damned not Dark Destiny! Also forgot he was dead! Wrong on both fronts

You numpty  my new Dwarf has a BS oops I mean Trident  No he really has a trident don't put him on the list!!!

You guys should get a room!

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Vic Vegas wrote:You guys should get a room!  

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Yeah a padded one!

Get your challengest locked and loaded 'cause Karma is coming turn 760! Here we go!

Dux Mortalitas wrote:Get your challengest locked and loaded 'cause Karma is coming turn 760! Here we go!

I have a multitude of challenges in, lets hope they push through.

Heads up everyone from here on out the calculation of Karma points for killing BS Dwarves changed.

The old rule was:
1. A "karma kill" earns the manager points equivalent to the number of kills that the dead warrior has.
***Killing a listed BS Dwarf earn 1.5 times the kill points rounded DOWN)***.

The new rule is:
1. A "karma kill" earns the manager points equivalent to the number of kills that the dead warrior has.
***Killing a listed BS Dwarf earn 1.5 times the kill points rounded UP)***.

With the new rule, killing a BS Dwarf will earn you a little extra.

Just a heads up to everyone, the results for turn #7 may be posted a few days late due to a busy schedule this weekend.
Anyway, get some good karma kills in so that when the report does come in, I have something nice to write about

This will be the shortest write-up yet with just 3 karma kills.

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Just occured to me that I have no protocol for the event of a tie. Although I doubt there will be a tie this year, it would be good to have an existing rule to deal with that event. the usual rules I have that go like 'the more experienced warrior takes the record', or 'the younger warrior takes the record' don't really apply in the case of this contest because very young warriors are going to have a hard time of winning because for them finding warriors with high potential karma points is difficult. Very experienced warriors on the other hand have plenty of potential targets, but killing is just plain more difficult at the advanced stages because all warriors are well flushed out and proven at that point. It is because of these factors, I will allow ties in Karma Contest. There can be multiple winners!

I don't think there's much chance of there being a tie for first place, especially in the manager category. <cough> <cough>

I think the real battle is for second and third place!!!

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Vic Vegas wrote:I don't think there's much chance of there being a tie for first place, especially in the manager category.  <cough> <cough>

I think the real battle is for second and third place!!!

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DHoR slots and metric points for 2nd and 3rd place? Thoughts?

I would keep it in the spirit of other contests and just show the winner in the DHoR.

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Although only a few managers have responded so far about their favorite and least favorite contest, it looks like Karma Contest is consistently getting low rankings. Well, Oddball too, but that is really a specialty contest that I never thought would be popular with most managers. Anyway, I would like to make Karma Contest a little more enjoyable to everyone, so I am interested in hearing any ideas on how it could be more exciting.

One thought that pops into mind as I ask the question is to automatically give a point for any kill even if the slain had no kills. From there each kill that the slain had would be added on. So a warrior that had 0 kills would earn one point and a warrior that had 3 kills would earn 4 points, for example. I noticed that there were often times lots of kills in the newsletter, but not so many where the slain had any kills. This would make it so people would earn points for any kill and just a lot more for certain kills. Maybe that might make for more interest in the contest...

Anyway, any thoughts you have on the contest are very welcome.

Dethroner seems to rank fairly high and I highly doubt any contest is going to outrank UW, so I feel satisfied that Dethroner is an enjoyable contest for most everyone. Still if there are any ideas, please feel free to post.

If points are given for killing a 0 kill gladiator, then that goes against the theme of the contest.

My biggest problem with many contests is the amount of attention that is required to lookup and issue challenges as an effective contest strategy. That is a problem that cannot be overcome by a contest, unless it is structured so that only random encounters count. That is one of the wonderful things about UW... everyone is involved, and it rewards random, single matches.

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Yes the randomness works well. Same goes for killfest..even though after getting a warrior buried you can retaliate and try and get an extra kill

Klagrok wrote:Yes the randomness works well. Same goes for killfest..even though after getting a warrior buried you can retaliate and try and get an extra kill

Random Karma Kills are allowed, so the random factor is in there. I see Vic's point about awarding points for 0 kill warriors as being antithetic. That makes sense. Hmmnn. Any other thoughts?

Dux Mortalitas wrote:

Random Karma Kills are allowed, so the random factor is in there. I see Vic's point about awarding points for 0 kill warriors as being antithetic. That makes sense. Hmmnn.  Any other thoughts?

If a manager went into the Karma Contest relying only on randomness, and didn't take the time to target high kill warriors, his chances of winning would be slim. So, to have an effective strategy, it takes a lot more time. Not a big deal. I certainly have had plenty of time on my hands as of late, but in years past when I was a lot busier in life, it was a big pain in the butt to lookup and plug in challenges.

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